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Anyone care to give me a hand with this address? The 1861 census taker had interesting writing.

If it helps, the area is St. Martins, Liverpool, UK. It was in Lancashire at the time.




Any ideas?

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Date: 2020-01-08 07:35 pm (UTC)
swordznsorcery: (Default)
From: [personal profile] swordznsorcery
That's 1871, not 1861!

It's Dryden Street Court. It's a bit more obvious if you look at the preceding page in the census - it's a bit more clear there. For some reason he's written "Court Dry", then "den St" up in the air, which helps even less! Another historical person with no intention of helping out the future investigator. ;)

Dryden Street still exists, but I imagine that the Court itself has long been consigned to history. Happily, if it was anything like most of them were!

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Date: 2020-01-08 08:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thisbluespirit
For some reason he's written "Court Dry", then "den St" up in the air,

I'd imagine he means a court behind/off Dryden Street then, rather than a road called Dryden St Court, as most towns and cities had networks of 'courts' behind streets, with back to back housing in.

Nice detective work!!

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Date: 2020-01-09 09:16 am (UTC)
thisbluespirit: (b7 - avon)
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With [personal profile] swordznsorcery's translation, I'd imagine it's probably "No 13 Court, Dryden Street", which seems to be a fairly standard thing for the courts. (I have a lot of families living in courts in Bridgwater, and they vary across censuses between the street name, no court detail, court number/building name + street).

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Date: 2020-01-09 12:24 am (UTC)
swordznsorcery: (Default)
From: [personal profile] swordznsorcery
That would certainly make sense, yes.

Such miserable places to live. Little wonder so many of them died of ghastly respiratory diseases.

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Date: 2020-01-09 02:14 pm (UTC)
thisbluespirit: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thisbluespirit
It was a great way to spread TB, yep. And all the rest...

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Date: 2020-01-09 12:25 am (UTC)
swordznsorcery: (Default)
From: [personal profile] swordznsorcery
It is truly awful handwriting, isn't it! That's surprisingly common, too. You'd think that if you were hiring somebody to fill in important official documents, it might be a good idea to check that they can do it so it's readable!

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Date: 2020-01-09 09:16 am (UTC)
thisbluespirit: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thisbluespirit
They did the 1841 in pencil! Not even a pen...

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Date: 2020-01-09 09:44 am (UTC)
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To be fair, it was just for statistics - they took censuses in 1801-1831 as well, but they only wrote down heads of household and mostly didn't keep them, so there was no real reason to suppose that anyone would want them nearly 200 years later! (Some of the earlier ones for specific locations do survive in record offices.)

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